Wednesday 6 October 2010

A Defensive Alliance Against the EU Muslim Axis of Hatred

By Mister Fox

The Reformers are talking of brave new plans to save our people from the destruction our totalitarian elites are wreaking upon them. We must not capitulate or allow the elites to control what we think and do which is what changing to civic nationalism, under any guise, would be, but be steadfast to Ethnonationalism. We may accept members from other ethnic groups into the party, but adopting civic nationalism is surrendering to the will of the elites. (1) Fate is with us because across the world multi-ethnic societies are breaking down into natural Ethnic communities and we must harness this movement: we must: carpe diem = seize the moment. In Julius Caesar Cassius urges that they group their forces at Sardis and take advantage of the secure location to recover their strength, but Brutus, advocates heading off the enemy at Philippi before Octavian can recruit more men. Brutus's main point is that, "the enemy increaseth every day" and "We, at the height, are ready to decline." They must act before they are too outnumbered. The elites are importing street soldiers at an alarming level. “There is a tide in the affairs of men. Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, all the voyage of their life Is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat, And we must take the current when it serves, Or lose our ventures.” (2)

However, there is one expedient strategy the Reformers must adopt to save this country and our children. The Elites have overlooked one major issue: Muslim hatred for Jews. The whole multi-racialist movement grew up as a response to the barbarism of Hitler -"It must never happen again", but they thought only Whites were racist and did not foresee that the very people they were importing, Muslims, would themselves persecute Jews, as they are in France and Malmo, Sweden. The elites did not foresee that Whites and Jews would need a common self-defence against the EU-Muslims Axis.

Some people object to this suggestion but they have not kept up with developments and remain fixated in quaint conspiracy theories. I know this break from the mutual conflicts of our histories sounds incredible, but if we carefully analyse the situation we are both facing it makes good sense. There are many racial attacks on Jewish people by Muslims. There are Muslim shops all over the UK selling ”The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”. The Government has introduced a law against “Religious hatred” that carries seven-years imprisonment, this protects Muslims. British Muslim communities have always harboured warmongers like Abu Hamza al-Masri, who advocate the murder of Jews and whites. We have all seen pictures of women in burkas holding signs proclaiming “God Bless Hitler”. Well, the elites and Jewish leaders seem to have missed them. (3)

The demonstrations outside the Israeli embassy give the clue: an axis of hatred between Socialist-Totalitarians and Muslims. I mentioned Brown and Lord “Mandy” trying to give Saudi Arabia more financial influence over Western affairs.

To enshrine their prejudice against Whites in law the elites introduced the 2000 Race Act which has led to 280,000 White toddlers being dehumanised as “racists.” Munira Mirza, a senior advisor to London Mayor Boris Johnson, said schools were being made to spy on nursery age youngsters by the Race Relations Act 2000. She wrote in Prospect magazine: ‘The more we seek to measure racism, the more it seems to grow. ‘Teachers are now required to report incidents of racist abuse among children as young as three to local authorities, resulting in a massive increase of cases and reinforcing the perception that we need an army of experts to manage race relations from cradle to grave. ‘Does this heightened awareness of racism help to stamp it out? Quite the opposite. It creates a climate of suspicion and anxiety.’ The Act compelled 43,000 public authorities, including schools and churches, ‘to promote good relations between persons of different racial groups’. Details of the incidents are logged on databases. (4)

Then the full totalitarian state was inaugurated in Labour Harriet Harman's Equality Law and brought in by evil Conservative Theresa May with all party support on Friday the 1st of October 2010: Soviet Friday. The day in British history when the elites made Britain a Soviet-Style tyranny. This oppression of indigenous people through the law works in tandem with the importation of terrorists. As I write there have been warnings broadcast of impending terror attacks so the elites know they bringing terrorists into the country.

The elites cover their alliance with Muslim extremists by blaming “right-wingers” A report, “Reassessing Prevent”, said " … underlines the fact that racial hatred and extremist ideology is not limited to any one faith or community". Comparing a defence of your people with terrorism shows their corrupt minds. Anna Turley, author of the report, said: "While Islamist extremism remains a very serious threat to our security, this kind of extremism is not the only threat to the stability and security of our communities." (5)

This is at the same time that the Telegraph warned of a European demographic time-bomb and just after Shalid Malik said that Muslims would take over. Gordon Brown brought him back into Government despite his expenses scandal. In November 2008 Brown and Mandelson went to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states to ask for billions for the International Monetary Fund and offered them some control over Britain and the West.

The EU alliance with Muslim states began after the Arab oil embargo in 1974. E. U. leaders openly boast about enlarging the EU to include the Arab states. In 2002 Louis Michel, Belgian minister of foreign affairs and later a member of the European Commission, told the Belgian parliament that the EU will eventually encompass North Africa and the Middle East as well as Europe.

Since the implementation of the Lisbon Treaty-European Constitution, the people have no voice and are ignored. Plans for a "Mediterranean Union" or "Union for the Mediterranean," which will include all EU member states, Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey, was launched in mid-2008 with plans for the creation of a "north-south co-presidency" and a permanent secretariat. Brussels created the "Barcelona Process — A Union for the Mediterranean."co-presidency between the EU and a Mediterranean (Muslim) country, chosen with consensus for a two-year term. Brussels developed the EU Arab dialogue which began in 1974 through “The Barcelona Process — A Union for the Mediterranean” into The European-Mediterranean Partnership.

The perception of an EU alliance with Muslim terrorists is not fanciful. Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, admitted to Italian newspaper, Corriere Della Sera in 2008, that in the 1970s the Italian government agreed to allowing Arab terrorist groups freedom of movement in the country in exchange for immunity from attacks. The government of Prime Minister Aldo Moro reached a "secret non-belligerence pact between the Italian state and Palestinian resistance organizations, including terrorist groups."

According to the former president, it was Moro who designed the terms of the agreement with the Arab terrorists. "The terms of the agreement were that the Palestinian organizations could even maintain armed bases of operation in the country, and they had freedom of entry and exit without being subject to normal police controls, because they were 'handled' by the secret services." As Interior Minister, Cossiga said that he learned PLO members in Italy had diplomatic immunity as representatives of the Arab League. "The Palestinian organizations could even maintain armed bases of operation in the country." This is Jizya, and has spread throughout the EU, which also pays the Palestinians tens of millions of Euros annually.” The security services have operated a similar deal in Britain. On 22 August 1998, the newspaper Al Sharq Al Awsat quoted Omar Bakri: “I work here in accordance with the covenant of peace which I made with the British government when I got (political) asylum.” This covenant allowed Muslim extremists to plan attacks abroad and develop terror networks here. In 1999 it was reported that each year approximately 2,000 Muslims were trained about Holy War at camps in Britain run by Bakri’s organisation al-Muhajiroun.In November 2003, the European Union's “Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia” suppressed a report on the rise of anti-Semitism. The survey had found "many anti-Semitic incidents were carried out by Muslim and pro-Palestinian groups," and so a "political decision" was taken not to publish it because of "fears that it would increase hostility towards Muslims."

Muslims have shouted abuse at our soldiers and protested in Wootton Bassett where the bodies soldiers are brought back. In January 2009, the head of domestic security service MI5 revealed that 2,000 people in Britain were involved with Islamist terrorist plots and many more support terrorism through fundraising and propaganda. From 11 September 2001 to the end of March 2008, British authorities arrested 1,471 Muslims for terrorism-related offences. Yet just six months later, The Daily Mail reported the security services were scaling down checks on Muslim terrorists.

In the Battle of Birmingham of 8 August 2009 Muslim youths fought the police and assaulted innocent Whites-the newspapers blamed “far-right extremists” - I accuse these lying journalists of covering up Muslim terrorism. If I know this professional journalists and the security services must know it so why do they cover the development of terror cells up? They know that eight young Muslim terrorists from Birmingham, London and Luton were arrested in Aden in December 1998, planning terror attacks against British targets. The security services later claimed they had no idea that Muslim street soldiers were being recruited in British mosques and trained in terror camps! Do we believe them?

As far back as 1999 it was reported that around 2,000 British Muslims being trained in British terror camps, mainly in London and Birmingham. The trainees were taught hand-to-hand combat, survival skills for guerilla warfare and advised to get real military training in war zones like the Yemen and Afghanistan which they do because Birmingham accents have been heard by RAF Nimrod. These are the people the media covered up for. In January 2007 Omar Bakri revealed that Islamist extremists were infiltrating the police and other public sector organisations.(6)

Britain has the largest population of Pakistani immigrants anywhere outside Pakistan. Militant opposition to us is growing among younger, second-generation Muslims, which was been galvanised by unjust invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. In a poll published by the Daily Telegraph 40 percent of young Muslims said they would prefer to live under Islamic law in Britain. One in eight said they admired groups such as al-Qaida that are”prepared to fight the West.” Yet still the elites bring them in. The catalyst for the Muslim bombings in London was the invasion of Iraq but the originating cause is that Muslims do not like us or our ways and want to change them to something more suitable to them. We have nothing in common.

Sharia law is now being operated in many of our cities. Our Government are compromising the safety of our people and are sneaking immigrants in and if we appeal to their good will we will all get on nicely together. At the same time terrorists who are based in Britain have carried out operations in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kenya, Tanzania, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Israel, Morocco, Russia, Spain, and America. Many governments - Jordanian, Egyptian, Moroccan, Spanish, French, and American - have protested London's refusal to shut down its Islamist terrorist infrastructure and its refusal to extradite wanted operatives. British Muslim communities shelter extremists and illegal immigrants.

The excuse is: Palestinian terrorists do it because they are impoverished, lacking opportunities and enraged by direct Israeli action on their communities; In fact they glorify suicide bombers as ' shahid '(martyrs). Similarly, British extremists are not poor Muslims suffering racism or poverty but middle class, Muslims born and educated in Britain who have been taught in mosques on our streets. They are an “enemy within”, that does not have to invade because it was imported by our elites who pour tax payers money into their communities, such as Bradford, Burnley, Oldham and Keighley.

At London bomber Shehzad Tanweer's memorial funeral in his home village in Pakistan, an estimated 10,000 mourners chanted Jihad, Jihad, Jihad and praised the suicide bomber. Such feelings are kept hidden in Britain, but the truth that emerged showed much support for murder attacks on us across Muslim states. On 27 7 2005 BBC reporter Phil Mackie admitted on Radio 5 Brian Hayes 10 pm programme that the BBC censors the truth about Muslims because the BBC was selective in its broadcasting of Muslim extremists threats.

Pakistan is a country where the Government recruits immigrants. In November 2006 it was reported that they were advertising for immigrants to come here from terrorist countries. A Foreign Office pamphlet declares: 'Multicultural Britain - a Land of Immigrants'. It encouraged immigrants by telling them of the preferential treatment they get under the Human Rights Act and well-paid jobs. The Foreign Office put it in embassies across the world. It was discovered in Pakistan.

Our Government used taxpayers money to fund the reconstruction of Bosnia. Cameron like Brown and Blair are working to get Turkey into the EU. A major policy promoted by Gordon Brown, as the Chancellor, was development aid, with 33 of the countries receiving British foreign aid being Muslim.

From 1997 British aid to Bangladesh was doubled. The real nature of foreign aid: transferring our money to the foreign elites and political causes supported by our elites. Bangladeshi immigrants in the east end of London have connections with the Communist Party of India (Marxist), France, has many Bangladeshi immigrants; as does Germany. Bangladesh and Islamic Terrorists are moving into the West. The immigrants who don't settle in Bengal, work as overseas agents of CPI(M) in Europe. They organise Labour vote banks to influence our elections and set up organisations to collect money in UK to send to CPI(M) in India and terrorists. Within weeks of coming to power Labour repealed the Primary Purpose Rule that prevented immigrants bringing their families over from Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Muslim countries.

Men who fought for the Taliban against our soldiers have been granted asylum, Algerian terrorists have flooded in and countless Iraqi's probably trained and of active age (18-35) have been admitted as asylum seekers. Over 3000 Al-Qaeda terrorists trained in Afghanistan are living here and more enter from Iraq every day. There are terror cells right across Britain as shown by the locations of police raids following the bombings. The July 7th terrorist attacks and the failed suicide bombings two weeks later, the riots here, Sweden and France are part of a religious war against the West and Jewish people. There have been British born suicide bombers operating in Israel and Iraq. Terrorists know they get favouritism from British authorities and this encourages them to plan bomb attacks on us.

Islamist propaganda is spread through Islamic study centres attached to universities. Professor Anthony Glees revealed eight universities — including Oxford and Cambridge — have accepted more than £233.5 million from Saudi and Muslim sources since 1995, spreading radicalism and creating two separate identities and sets of allegiance. Now the education system is being used to brainwash our children to excuse and encourage Muslim terrorism.

The elites showed their submission to Saudi ignored the law and abandoned the bribery investigation into the arms deal between Saudi Arabia and BAE systems when the Saudis threatened that, if the case was not dropped: ‘British lives on British streets’ would be at risk” - former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles. These are the controllers of terror groups in the West that EU officials are colluding with against the European people!

In April 2008 during his mayoral campaign in London Boris Johnson spoke of his pride in his Muslim immigrant ancestry and stated illegal immigrants should be given legal status. Which is not going to give the white and Jewish communities confidence as there are a million plus Muslims living in London. If, as according to some reports, only 10% of them believe in using violence against us then we are still entering Enoch’s Rivers of Blood on British streets. However, Jewish people have an organised reaction force in the CST trained by the police to help defend them and we need one to defend our communities.

To Conclude: we must form committees of defence with the Jewish community for protection from attacks when the terrorists and trained Muslim soldiers in our country begin fighting us and they must use their media influence for our mutual benefit not against us because we are not their enemy. They have to stop fighting the last war and face what is coming - worldwide Jihad against our two peoples.

Both peoples face the greatest holocaust in human history because most of the Muslim world hate us and are turning on us. We have nowhere to run, this is our homeland into which traitorous western rulers are importing enemies, and Jews could be stranded, for Israel is surrounded by hostile Muslim states and if Europe is taken over it will be attacking her too, and if America falls Israel will collapse. To prepare we must set up committees to liaise between our two communities to form an alliance of Whites and the Jewish community to defend our two peoples who are the intended targets of the EU-Muslim axis.

(1) http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30490

The Marxist EHRC have just released this video with Trevor Phillips explaining the New Equality Law, it's the same thinking as in the Soviet Union!

The state totalitarian Equality Act become law on Friday the 1st. The section which affects membership of non-Associated organisations like the BNP will come into force in April 2011. This was supported by the other elite parties. The Daily Mail noted Harman's Charter to Sue. This makes our country like the Soviet Union because now everyone lives in fear of being prosecuted!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1316837/Employers-face-equality-law-nightmare-Coalition-pushes-ahead-Harriet-Harmans-Act.html

(2) Act 4, scene 3, 218–224

(3) http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/The-War-Against-Swedes.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/7278532/Jews-leave-Swedish-city-after-sharp-rise-in-anti-Semitic-hate-crimes.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/world/attacks-by-arabs-on-jews-in-france-revive-old-fears.html


http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=17933

http://awarforeurabia.blogspot.com/2005/07/mark-steyn-wake-up-folks-its-war.html

http://thegreenarrow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mrfox&action=display&thread=4268

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yG1OJugnFY


(4) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314438/3-year-olds-labelled-bigots-teachers-250k-children-accused-racism.html

(5) http://www.nlgn.org.uk/public/2009/stronger-together-a-new-approach-to-preventing-violent-extremism/

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/4536506.Muslims_shunning____extremism____grants/

(6) http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/37503/Terrorist-sleeper-cell-within-Met-Terrorist-sleeper-cell-within-Met-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-466832/Eight-Al-Qaeda-fanatics-working-police-dont-dare-sack-them.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/moderate-muslim-head-of-uk-tv-channel-held-on-terror-claims.html

http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/18/defend-azad-ali/

44 comments:

brian boru said...

Good for you Anon.
Also, who is responsible for the undermining of immigration laws in all white countries which has allowed their flooding by non-whites? Whose interests are the white soldiers who are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan serving? Certainly not the interests of the people of America or Britain. More likely the people who control the gas and oilfields of Central Asia and the heroin supply. Who is trying to get those soldiers into another war with Iran? The jews have done far more harm to our people than the Muslims. Now we are supposed to protect them from the very people they brought into our countries to destroy us through miscegenation in the first place? Whose interests do you serve Mr Fox?

Anonymous said...

Anon 13.15

Spot on!! Hope you're reading 'Alanorei'

Sarah
You obviously have Jewish friends or possibly are one?

Until they (Jews collectively) stand up against, or at least criticise the wrong doings of their own kind OPENLY, just as half of 'our' kind stand up against 'our' wrong doings (sometimes openly shrieking with hysteria as in racism etc) they will NEVER be trusted collectively, by anyone with so much as half a decent brain!

Muslim Jew - Halaal Kosher - Two sides of the same coin, immune from DIRECT citicism in white western countries BY white western peoples.

Their supposed 'hatred' for each other outside the middle east is no different to feuds between the English and the Scottish/Irish. They both hate the goyim or the kuffars, same parallel.

Universally like the 4 nations of Britain they share their own Abrahamic semitic/khazarian platform. Neither are white people despite appearances. Neither race should be in Europe. They both USE black African savages to do their donkey work or else proxy.

Turkey(Muslim) and Israel(Jew) are staunch allies don't forget that (both are 'applying' for this circus 'EU' membership) and even the Israel loathing bitch stoning Saudi Arabia trades with Israel. Dubai is a magnet for 'western' Jewish owned businesses!

Communist China and India are in a secret 'threesome' with Israel. Question Peter Mandelsohn or Bill Gates where the core of IT technology is based today. Steel is another as is coal.

Everything our European peoples have invented and produced has been surreptitiously stolen from us through 2 world wars and scheming Marxist indoctrination,,, 'nationalised' and communised and subsequently sold off to the highest bidder with the cheapest labour. VALUE for money nobody's labour is cheaper than a coolie's. Ask any Chinese or Indian. They even take them with them to Africa. They're far more useful.

John McNeill said...

Sarah, I think you and Mister Fox are on the ball here. Keep fighting the good fight!

misterfox said...

Very interesting but how do you suggest we "Whites" get out of the invidious situation we are in? Do you have any proposals?
Second, why do you assume that people who write like that(me)have Zionists friends or in control.
You are right about our fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq but how do we save Europe? How do you think you are going to save America?
Thirdly,do you know that we are being invaded?
Fourthly, if you oppose Israel and don't think it should exist, do you want the Israelis to come here?

Anonymous said...

So who are the elite?

Sarah Maid of Albion said...

Actually I am not Jewish, and apart from a couple of Jewish people who write to me occasionally I do not, to my knowledge, have any Jewish friends or acquaintances. That is not by choice, it is just the way things are.

This article was by Mister Fox, who expressed his views, which I respect and to some extent agree with.

I have made my views on the Jewish question clear. I have significant issues with the Jewish domination of the media and finance, the Jewish American lobby and with the often Jewish inspired attempts to re-write history.

I also consider the prosecution of Holocaust denial, which happens in Canada, Austria, Germany etc to be a form of fascism in itself.

However, the real threat we face is from Islam, mass immigration and from Marxism, and only some of the Marxists are Jews.

The fact that I keep repeating this and yet people keep writing in referring to my "Jewish friends" and accusing me of being a "Zionist enabler" defies understanding

misterfox said...

Brian, you lump all Jews together. Can you not distinguish between the European Jewish communities who are now being perseuted and their short-sighted representatives and the influential ones?

I'll deal with the elites question when I return but let make this clear. I have no respect for anonymous keyboard warriors.

misterfox said...

Anonymous. I am well aware of who agitated for Race Laws. My thesis is that they were short-sighted and in trying make themselves feel secure in our countries after pogramms and Hitler, misguidedly brought persecution on their own people back by importing Muslims who hate them.

BritishActivism said...

(Part1 of 2)

On the whole, it is a good article as usual. Like some of the others here, I do have a few concerns though.

It started off very well with what seemed to be a robust defence of how we should ensure that the cause is not side-shifted into civic nationalism (and I certainly applaud that).

But then it sadly glossed over something very important, for the end aim of trying to establish some kind of (neocon like?) agenda of throwing our lot in with the Jewish diaspora and all that will probably come with it.

Not that they particularly seem to want our help anyway. They are more likely to be the ones most railing against us.

It is unfortunately not so simple as 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' - and sadly some of the "conspiracy theory" is provably not just "theory", but actual plain conspiracy.

I have spent many years railing against the cranks and nut-jobs banging on about "the Jews" being responsible for every bad fart to ever occur, but the thing is, there is an aspect to what has been taking place (and the ideological fostering of the destruction of our societies) which is evidently disproportionately represented by the said individuals.

There is no point trying to hide from it, because it is the truth for anyone who takes a proper look. It is ideological, philosophical, whatever - not 'racial'.

The hardest part is trying to wrestle it from the cranks and the shrill paranoid levels that tend to surround it, to find an acceptable path in which this historical fact can be calmly and rationally acknowledged, then put into place (and into context) with the rest of the issues going on.

I am certainly behind all the rest of the article about the threats we face demographically and ideologically from the EU Islamic double barrel shotgun. It is, of course, all perfectly true and valid.

Yet, at the same time, it does not mean that the baby need be thrown out with the bathwater with every other aspect to what is going on, for this is a tri-pronged attack we face, not just "Islam" and physical threats from Islamist bombs or whatever.

We certainly do not want to be drawn into the Arabic Muslim - Jewish conflict issues, we have to keep out of it as much as possible, and we should not be drawn in any way to be fighting wars or battles on behalf of people who are not of our own and more importantly have no sense of solidarity to our own cause.

It is clear that the western powers have entered into deals with the Muslim world, and that the Muslim world has achieved just what it wanted in the west - something described right back in the early 1970's.

This aim was the importation of Islamic 'block' communities into Europe for the purpose of both future Islamisation and the breakdown of the traditional Judeo-Christian nature of western civilisation.

The Muslim Brotherhood and the OIC knew that by importing millions and millions of expanding Muslims into Europe (especially Britain as America's traditional partner in supporting Israel), that the support for the state would eventually start to collapse - and that the "Islamic problem" would manifest itself in our then largely untouched continent.

It would also collapse because they knew a conflict would arise between the old "left" and the new left - who would support Islam despite it's anti-liberal views on all manner of topics.

BritishActivism said...

(continued)

This split has already happened in the "left", especially so right back in the early 90's - where the old guard of the socialist left has lost ground to an ever surging new wave of a pro-Islamic globalist left.

They also knew that when a large chunk of the demographic was Islamic, and could thus assert a certain "clout" over foreign policy issues, the support for Israel and Jews would start to falter in our governments policies and that it would drive a deep wedge between Britain and America.

I feel that to some degree, this has also been achieved.

All of this seemed to benefit the new left, Muslims,and the EU - who wanted to break up the British-American solidarity which was jarring with the aims and aspirations of the European Union project.

Via historical and present involvement of cultural Marxists (disproportionately from a particular heritage) endeavouring so strongly to make European societies multiracial and multicultural, it is an unfortunate twist of fate for them that there is an element of some of this being "brought upon themselves" when it comes to the plight of the Jewish community in Europe.

It is definitely a sad state of affairs for all involved.

The writing is on the wall for many European countries now. Like the fleeing from Malmo or wherever else, the demographic tidal wave is coming, and yet to fully wash over.

If a certain sector of the population here wish to huddle and be protected by us from the worst elements of Islamism then that is fine by me.

However, I personally would not bust a gut or in any way reshape or redefine British Nationalism towards being any sort of Neocon/ Geert Wilders clone model when it comes to maintaining a level of neutrality in middle eastern affairs or a slide into "cultural nationalism".

Nor would I particularly trust any sort of deep collaboration with the Jewish elite types who are the mouthpieces for Britain's Jewish community (and specifically their interest lobbies).

People of Jewish descent have nothing at all to fear from British Nationalists and everything to fear from a resurgent Islamism, but the choice will be up to them whether they support us exactly as we stand (on ethnocentric Nationalist terms and neutrality as much as possible in the middle eastern affairs).

We should not be actively trying to "earn" their support in any way whatsoever.

It is clear who is responsible for genuine "Anti Semitism" in the western world now. It is Muslims, without a doubt.

BritishActivism said...

(still continued)

There has to be a balance maintained.

Focussing on "bombing" and "threats" is not enough and not always right. The real Islamist threat manifests itself on other ways for the time being. Only later will the violence and Jihadist blackmail increase.

I have fought the cause against Islamisation for a long time now, but even I am tiring of "Muslims" being used as shorthand for every single ill or thug causing a problem in society or the country, just like I tire of "Jews" being lined up as being every ill in society.

When I see shrill replies to newspaper comments talking about "muslim thugs taking over the streets" or "muslims this" and "muslims that" - I often wonder where and what they are talking about because often, it is just ethnic minorities, usually black, romanian, or mixed ethnicities, who are at the heart of the matter - or converesly it is white liberals to blame for "banning" this or that festival etc.

When immigration is mentioned in the papers, a recurring thread of reply columns is regarding "muslims".

But what about the rest of the world, the other races, cultures?

Are they now okay? Is the focus solely going to be on the threat of Islamification and Islamist terror plots?

The article starts with a backing of ethnoNationalism, but ends being another "Islamist" piece which is partially diverted from that cause.

That is not a good way forward. We have to be more complex than that.

How to deal with that complexity in a fair and balanced way is the hardest part of all.

Unfortunately, I have to admit I do not know what the solution is to our problems.

Regards,

B.A.

Anonymous said...

As to the question ,whether i believe that Israel should wiped off the map:I say No.I support any kind of Nationalism for all races,including Jews.In their own country!

Do you know that Israel has miscengation laws?Nothing wrong with it,if the Jews want to stay Jewish so be it.But i cannot accept that the very same Zionists who support an ultra-Jewish state ,support the Bastardization of my own race here in the West.The next time you watch an anti-White Hollywood movie look at the credits with Executive Producer -stein/-berg/-baum/-feld.

alanorei said...

The big picture is important.

A certain NY Independent KJB Baptist pastor, Bob Militello, who is an ex-Catholic, educated in Jesuit schools to become a successful NY businessman, which he did before entering the pastorate, said this in the Summer 2010 issue of his newsletter The Righteous Gentile. Emphases are his.

"As we continue to pressure Israel into agreeing to divide Jerusalem watch for an unexpected, carefully selected judgment to soon
come upon us. It is inevitable.

"P.S. I wrote this paper in mid-April. Knowing what pressure we had recently put on Israel to stop a building project in Jerusalem, it was certain that judgment would follow –
[see above]. Not many weeks after President Obama had Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton dress down the Israeli government over the housing project, an oil well blew up in the Gulf. With God, nothing happens by accident. When you squeeze Israel – you get hit with a 2”x4”."

Just one piece of advice, love the Jew or hate him, make an ally of him or don't make an ally of him, don't give him a hard time.

i.e. Anyone who puts the Jew into a furnace (or even helps/allows it to happen) gets paid back in kind.

Pre-WW2 Britain refused to allow the Jews back into the then Palestine. In November 1940, it was "blood, sweat and tears" in Coventry. (Lots of tears, btw. I strongly recommend the recent BBC2 documentary, if you can still view it somehow.)

The other side, of course, kept putting Jews in furnaces, so God put them into urban firestorm crematoria, e.g. 35,000 in Dresden, 50,000 in Hamburg - in one night.

Final word from Bro. Militello, who hints with Whom and what this nation should form an alliance. No-one can say they weren't warned.

"Well I suppose the Germans really have won the Battle of Britain, although they lost the air
battle in the summer of 1940. Now a German pope comes with a blessing of peace and will be received as a hero by a nation that put the King James Bible on the shelf a long time ago. Take a look again at Psalm 9, verse 17.

"Maybe some courageous Bible believer will quote this verse to Queen Elizabeth before the aged monarch's bones get put in Westminster Abbey where she'll join her illustrious ancestors. The sun had set long ago on the British empire. Now, perhaps the Lord will bury what's left of it."
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alanorei said...

Re: Anon 10:07 comment, there's a lot in what you say actually, from a scriptural stance (though there's no need to blockade Israel).

The last two words in a Hebrew Bible are from 2 Chronicles 36:23 in a KJB:

"Go up."

God wants His chosen people back in the land of Israel. It will happen as anti-Semitism increases worldwide.

As for other races, including those that don't belong in this country, I believe that 2 Bible verses are relevant. They have prophetical application to emigration in the End Times and result, probably, from increasingly bitter strife between the natives and the incomers, in any country, including ex-pat Brits in Spain, my emphases.

"And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land" Isaiah 13:14.

"for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land" Jeremiah 50:16b.

In other words, that Indian who told Nick Griffin on QT last year that he loved this country (he made lots of dosh here) and urged that white folks who supported the BNP should be transported to the South Pole (as genocidal a proposition as Adolf ever came up with) will suddenly discover that he doesn't really love this country after all, when the above scriptures start to come to pass.

There are sound reasons why God is allowing, or even instigating all this but they are beyond the scope of this comment.

It will be rough sleddin' for the natives as all this unfolds but then so is the lancing of a boil. In both cases, the end result is worth it.

Sarah Maid of Albion said...

@ Alanorei

I apologise, I should not have allowed Anonymous 09:57's message through. It was entirely inappropriate.

I have to put up with the abuse, its my blog, but commentators should not have to, and I apologise any hurt you were caused.

Sarah

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:07

Well, short answer:Yes.

You don't need to remove the Jews from the country,but Jews definetly need to be removed from positions of power and influence.As i said,they have their own interests.Once in position of power(they are already) they will use it to their advantage.Human nature.

How come everybody cries when Muslims gain influence(through Jews and our traitors),yet nobody seems to object to Jewish influence ,which is as hostile and as destructive?How come this foreign group is allowed to have power over our people?

No,all problems would not be solved ,you are right.But with the removal of the most powerful anti-White faction,the solutions to our problem would have no more obstacles.

Shieldline said...

Sarah, you highlighted the plight of the heritical two last year. Steven Whittle was critical of muslims behaviour in Britain and jewish Power in Britain which he claimed helped to facilate Britain's transformation from a homogenous white society in the first place. Which do you think he was imprisioned for.

Shieldline said...

Very interesting but how do you suggest we "Whites" get out of the invidious situation we are in? Do you have any proposals?

My first proposal is to drop the inverted commas around whites. And refer to ourselves as whites. We're going to be called racists anyway

Anonymous said...

If you are to judge the book Protocols you had all better read it first, otherwise you are no better than the Muslims that burned Bradford down over the Satanic Verses, which none of them read.

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/02/complete-protocols_13.html

misterfox said...

Personally, I don't have any Jewish friends, though I have recently gained a couple of Jewish-American internet correspondents. They don't like the way I base my arguments on race and will not publish my political articles but I have not changed anything. I agree that the "good" Jews should denounce the liberal-left ones and have advocated that.
BA, I am not glossing over anything but you urge me to gloss over the amount of Muslims having military training in Britain and perhaps ignore the examples of Italy and Britains pacts with terrorists to leave them to consolidate and develop as long as they do not bomb those respective countries. In other words: allow people to build up forces of war against us without murmer. What is the word for that?
I don't know why you dredge up mindless cliches like "the enemy of my enemy is my friends" - I am talking about expediency in an invidious situation which none of you have an answer for. What do you suggest? Ignore this and read "The Protocols..."?
Then you become really absurd and accuse me of being "(neo-con like)"! I happen to be a traditional Conservative and my main intellectual influence is Edmund Burke, at the present time Patick J.Buchanan.

misterfox said...

PT.2"
I am well aware of the "Jewish part" in this. In many cases it is an instinctive defence mechanism after Hitler but most Jewish people would drop that if it was not for White Nats arguing about the Holocaust.
Anonymous crew, Considering how much you people have held back your countries and made their colonisation easier you are traitors to your people as Stormfront is an enemy agent facilitating your dispossession.
You are stuck in the same ideological groove repeating the same words and referring to the same books for every different situation while some of us engage in original thought and try to offer solutions. You even hide behind screen names. Why should anyone respect your views?

misterfox said...

PT.3
I am sorry you ignored it but my central point is the survival of "White" people who are being wiped out. I do not like ideologies that blame one people for everything like Nazism blames Jews and its mirror image Multi-Racialism blames Whites. If you want to say that Jews started Multi-Racialism please supply evidence.
What has Israel bulldozing villages got to do with you? America is imploding and all you do is think about foreign countries! You are not really nationalists working for the survival of your people and country, you are mono-maniacal anti Jews.
Do you disagree that we should form community defence groups to protect our people? Because you ignore the main points I make and are only excited by the points that that touch on your obsession.

misterfox said...

Finally, I must point out your paranoid tendencies. You slot people you disagree with into hostile categories: we become neo-cons or Jewish or have Jewish or Zionist friends, presumably manipulating us, whispering in our ears, working on us constantly. You must have Griffin as a role model!
There are discussions to be had with Jewish people because our interests are not identical but you just cause more friction when we are being invaded. Not one of you can offer a solution just anonymous, negative criticisms. Shieldwall thinks the solution can be reached by not putting inverted commas around the word "White"! It is for emphasis to show I am not ducking the issue.
I suggest you curl up with Douglas Reed; especially The Controversy of Zion",in which he explains that Hitler was a front man for the Jewish conspiracy and after the war was taken to Moscow to live in luxury! He had a tremendous imagination, Reed, a novelists imagination, but not suited for rational analysis. Still, a lot more panache than Kevin MacDonald.

misterfox said...

Is it really so simple Shieldline? Gerald Kauffman denouncing Israel as a Nazi state -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEYz00MqCx0

Do you think Lord Phillips is Jewish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEYz00MqCx0

misterfox said...

Shaun, you imagine what I stand for then argue against it. This post says more about your psychology than anything else. I am not particularly involved with the Reformers and I follow no one. As for Griffin: He has failed and political failures customarily resign. The trouble is he thinks he owns the party-true there are many unthinking sycophants who look up to him, but since last May things have taken a downward turn.
It is right that people want transparent counting. It is normal for a party to have the accounts available for viewing.
The dictatorial constitution alone is reason to not trust him. The recent spate of illegal expulsions of party officials should warn you that he is now destroying the party to prevent anyone else being voted in. Did you really think the leadership election was open and fair?
The new campaign of "Bring the boys home" is remote and unless you have kin there of little impact on most people.
Griffin got away with it for a decade because there was no real talent in nationalism and what there was in the BNP he drove out rather than have his own inadequacy exposed. He is a third-rate nobody, albeit brave, who has been seen through. However, I don't intend to discuss this because I am not following anyone.

misterfox said...

Well, another anonymous poster. This is the last time I put myself out for you fixated people. I read "The Protocols.." Douglas Reed, Nesta Webster, etc...etc... thirty years ago. I still have them all. Don't let reality spoil your treason in helping stop your countries being destroyed.

Anonymous said...

Let me address some of the points you made.

1. As for Griffin: He has failed and political failures customarily resign.

He has stated he will stand down, though obviously not soon enough for you.


2. The trouble is he thinks he owns the party...

I don't know what he thinks. You may have personal knowledge I do not possess.

3 ...but since last May things have taken a downward turn.

If any major Party had it's web site destroyed and anti-Party scribbling put up in it's place what do you expect to happen. This fault lies with the reformer's man, Bennett. If Griffin is at fault it is in being duped by Bennett. Not being a mind reader myself, I can sympathise.

4. It is right that people want transparent counting. It is normal for a party to have the accounts available for viewing.

I would have thought the MP's accounts scandal would suggest that it is not normal to have accounts available for viewing. But here is the BNP interim report: http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/bnp%E2%80%99s-financial-scrutiny-committee-issues-interim-report

5. The dictatorial constitution alone is reason to not trust him.

You know very well Trevor Phillips has every intention of bankrupting us with endless court cases. It was and is necessary to allow Griffin to make urgent changes to comply with the ever more absurd demands from the HRC. If you had your way we would already be bankrupted by them.

6. The recent spate of illegal expulsions of party officials should warn you that he is now destroying the party to prevent anyone else being voted in. Did you really think the leadership election was open and fair?

Give details of the individuals illegally expelled and we can discuss it.

7. The new campaign of "Bring the boys home" is remote and unless you have kin there of little impact on most people.

Yet it has had fantastic public support, and puts the BNP in the mind of the voting public as the only alternative to the warmongers in charge.

Personally I may well support Brons if he steps up, but I count it a point against him that he keeps Butler on his payroll after he disgraced Britain by going to Brothels in Brussels, and on video too. That would make great 9 O'Clock viewing on the BBC if he was leader, wouldn't it?

I await to see if Wilders' Freedom Party takes off, which will suit the establishment, as Wilders is fine with the Dutch being replaced by Africans, just so long as they are not Muslims.

As for defence groups, yes, of course. Buy arms from anyone you can. Even druggies. Or get cross bows online. But in the end, we need control of the functions of State, or the West is lost, and if you think Griffin is 3rd rate, Butler is 4th rate. But Griffin won the election fair and square, unless you know different.

shaunantijihad

Anonymous said...

Let me address some of the points you made.

1. As for Griffin: He has failed and political failures customarily resign.

He has stated he will stand down, though obviously not soon enough for you.


2. The trouble is he thinks he owns the party...

I don't know what he thinks. You may have personal knowledge I do not possess.

3 ...but since last May things have taken a downward turn.

If any major Party had it's web site destroyed and anti-Party scribbling put up in it's place what do you expect to happen. This fault lies with the reformer's man, Bennett. If Griffin is at fault it is in being duped by Bennett. Not being a mind reader myself, I can sympathise.

4. It is right that people want transparent counting. It is normal for a party to have the accounts available for viewing.

I would have thought the MP's accounts scandal would suggest that it is not normal to have accounts available for viewing. But here is the BNP interim report: http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/bnp%E2%80%99s-financial-scrutiny-committee-issues-interim-report

5. The dictatorial constitution alone is reason to not trust him.

You know very well Trevor Phillips has every intention of bankrupting us with endless court cases. It was and is necessary to allow Griffin to make urgent changes to comply with the ever more absurd demands from the HRC. If you had your way we would already be bankrupted by them.

misterfox said...

Nice attempt to divert the topic, Shaun, but I am not interested. Now go and help your mates leafleting.

Anonymous said...

As I said,

"Let me address some of the points YOU made."

You made the points, not I, yet when I attempt a civil discussion with YOUR points, you attempt not to substantiate your allegations with,

"Nice attempt to divert the topic..."

They were YOUR topics. I was answering YOU.

You have a problem with your ego and anyone who doesn't share your opinion. And you dare to call Mr Griffin a destroyer of the Party! It is you who makes such allegations and then when called to give evidence your only answer, despite my point by point answer to YOUR allegations, is nothing, nada, only that I am diverting the discussion away from... you.

Yes, go and make alliances with the funders of Searchlight, they have a leader of the Labour Party now, so why not ask the Labour Party to ally with us too, and Searchlight, and the UAF, hell, why not join the Tories, after all, Cameron "may be a descendent of Moses."

Shaun

misterfox said...

I am not ging to lower myself to respond to paroid rants from such as Shaun again. The way he slots people he disagrees with into categories =Searchlight now, Reformers before - is a paranoid trait.
I am sorry that Sarah allows such disturbed personal attacks through. What is this nonsense about brothels? I am not involved with Butler, follow no one as I do my own original research and write original solutions to our present problems.
As for the leadership challenge. Griffin's attitude in that ashowed a deeptly tyrannical man and if anyone puts faith in him after his behaviour in that then I pity you. He is not up to the job of saving this country but if simple people want to follow him good luck and keep donating. But where do the donations go?

Sarah Maid of Albion said...

I am sorry Misterfox I thought I had rejected Shaun's comment, but must have let it through by mistake.

I am afraid I have been a little unwell recently and I am obviously not concentrating.

If the personal attacks do not stop I am going to have to turn off the comment function.

Sarah

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misterfox said...

I repeat: I am not involved with the BNPReform movement but put this devasting news before you as interested parties. It looks as thoughthe BNP will soon be wound up as insolvent. This is wht the BritishFreedom Party has been founded.
http://eddybutler.blogspot.com/

britishfreedom.org

BritishActivism said...

(Part1)

Mister Fox, I am certainly not here for any agitation - and I hope that my replies were not seen as such, and will not be seen as such this time either.

I tried to make a balanced reply on both sides of the fence and I tried to suggest to the wider readership that it is not exactly correct to sail down one path alone at either extreme.

Unfortunately, the mix of what's taking place as a whole is not so easy to compartmentalise into neat little boxes.

Naturally, I realise that you are aware of this, but I wanted to comment on it for those who may have read the article and not be as well versed as yourself.

Given the nature of respected writers like yourself, the impression and viewpoint left lingering from articles like this has an important sway.

I believe that both of the aspects recognised in the article and in the reply column have to be dealt with properly, and we should not be having to swing violently from side to side.

I seem to recall that I was mostly agreeing with the Islamic expansionism and trying to convey the things which I believe to have been put in place by Muslims (not 'Jews') to achieve this.

I certainly don't recall disagreeing with (or glossing over) with the general premise about the threat that Islam poses.

I still stand by the fact that the article starts off along the lines of an ethno-nationalist ethos (and how we should not allow the movement to slide into civic nationalism) - then quickly skips into an anti-Islamic piece, which, as I am sure you will know, is not the same issue at all.

I certainly wasn't trying to insinuate you 'always' gloss over the other issues, for I do not know what your personal positions are regarding them.

I was implying that there is a disjoint in the article, going from 'race/ethnic' interests right into that of 'religious' fanaticism.

I was just commenting (and thinking) about this particular article on its own, and the impression I got from it as a whole.

BritishActivism said...

(Continued)

To be fair, I think I must have been fed up at the time I wrote the replies.

No doubt I had already read a glut of articles across the Nationalist blog circuit and media that day which showed, once again, that Nationalism seems to be increasingly focussing on one
thing - threats of Islamic Extremism, Muslims, Islam.

This is no reflection on yourself, and I should not have jumped on it without realising it may have sounded as being something personal waged against yourself - It certainly was not meant to be so.

The thing is, just lately, I suppose I have been getting fed up of the increasing focus on Islamists in the media, especially when it is being mostly framed around the fear of terrorist acts being carried out against the public.

I certainly do acknowledge it to be a reality and a serious problem, but the saturation of it above and beyond all else on the nationalist wavelength can sometimes get a little overbearing.

I know that all what you have identified in your post is true - and I remember congratulating it and saying it was true.

However, at the same time, living in a town that is already around 33-35% Muslim, I am afraid I also see the other process occurring regarding how the Islamification of the country is being carried out, and I see those 'other' things in the mix on the national level - especially when it comes to matters of how a lot of this has been carried out (and how it has been allowed to manifest itself).

Like roots of weeds, if people don't tackle the bottom and acknowledge that they are there, the weeds will just continue to grow back above the top soil and provide everybody with problems.

Again, I am not saying you personally do that - it is just that I am beginning to expect some kind of open acknowledgement from certain groups of society that their group (as a collective) are not so squeaky clean - that there are things they need to admit to us and to themselves; and that they should be able to take some collective criticism where it is due without the shrill attacks and insinuations.

We have certainly had to suffer collective acknowledgement for things in our past and roles played by a tiny portion of our people, I see no reason why they should be exempt from similar scrutiny and self reflective honesty.

BritishActivism said...

(Continued)

There has to be a middle ground in this area, and I think it should be found.

I do not throw myself behind (or support) the extreme sections on this issue, but I do expect some of those things which are indisputable historical and documented fact to be allowed to be talked about in a sensible way - so that they can be put into proper context, and if anything, prevent the real conspiracy theorist from going too crazy with it all.

I'm not particularly interested in obsessing over the Protocols, the depths of Freemasonry, clique clubs having bizarre rituals in the American wilderness or whatever else flies around the internet in some of those circles.

It doesn't matter to me, as it doesn't prove or help anything now. It is a bit of a waste of time and a diversion from getting anything done about it.

We just need to assess what has undeniably been done, what is currently still being done today and how to try and stop it all for the future.

NOR do I wish to "blame" a whole sector or whole group as being responsible, which is what many others tend to imply whenever these kinds of discussions are had.

This is obviously not how it works, just like it is the same on the other side of the coin with Muslims who whoever else.

People who abruptly try and associate such criticism with being hostile to every single Jew
or being swivel eyed lunatics just serve to shut down free and open debate. Again, I am not suggesting you do this - I am talking generally.

When I look at this, I am talking about Frankfurt School origins, key people pushed for changing legislations and creating laws, the movers and shakers in the EU foundations/advancement, who and what ideologies are being pushed for what purposes.

I'm talking about foundations, charities, whatever else that have been established to promote things that break down our society as part of cultural marxist ideologies and the push for globalism and globalist interests.

It is real, it is there, for whatever reason - and the disproportionate amount of certain peoples' involvement through history in terms coming up with (and perpetuating) these ideologies and setting up these groups is increasingly getting hard for me to deny. It cannot be mere "coincidence", can it?.

I also find it bizarre that there is this kind of 'grip' over free thought and expression in society when it comes to these matters, and that in many places around Nationalism we are increasingly being urged to (often unquestioningly) snuggle up to some of these things against the common foe of Islamic Extremism.

BritishActivism said...

(continued)

Personally speaking, it is not particularly a fear of suicide bombs or other outrages that rules my thoughts on Muslims at this time, especially given my own ideological insight into Islam and my personal experience of how it operates. I realise that we are not all of the same opinion though.

I do think further terrorist incidents will come, and come on an increasing basis, but I do not think that it will become a regular occurrence for another decade or two yet - not until their numbers are consolidated across the whole country enough so that they can start issuing quite stark demands and weave those implied threats over whole society.

It is of course already happening on a smaller scale up and down the country where there are highly concentrated pockets of them, but I think the real phase of violence and intimidation is yet to come.

In the meantime, as you are no doubt aware, the other forms of Islamification and the wider demise of our ethnic group from millions and millions of 'non-Islamic' peoples continue unabated.

I am certainly aware of the threat to our civilisation from Islam in all its aspects.

This anti-Islamic stance has been my rally call for many, many years now because I do not really want complete Islamic systems to have a grip over mankind as a whole at all, no matter how it manifests itself.

I certainly do not want it to replace (or become dominant in) European civilisation.

Therefore I am certainly not glossing over that aspect - or all the risks it poses by means of the Jihadist tendencies.

I was just trying to convey to any readers of the article that the violence from it is not necessarily the sole point of focus - either regarding Muslims and their advancement, or in terms of wider Nationalism.

As I say, I do not know your history or your stances on these wider matters, and that's why I used the glib phrase of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to make the wider point to others.

I used it because, quite frankly, that is what a lot of people who have the "Islamic Terrorist" hat on seem to think - ie, they can virtually ignore the rest of what's going on across the general nationalist manifesto and, in the process of doing this, they tend to support everything that the Muslims are against - because they must be our friends, they must on the same side as us, and they must be working for our vested interests too....

Obviously this is not always strictly the case is it, really. We are in a three dimensional struggle here and we should be watching our backs at all times.

Nor was I asking you to "gloss over" the contents of your article, and to be honest, that comment in your reply there is a bit flippant and a clear misunderstanding of the point I was trying to make.

Of course, the somewhat curt remark in the piece about "quaint conspiracy theories" is bound to wind some people up who appear in the comments section thus far, but the point I was making was that not all of it can be brushed aside quite so quickly as being ridiculous or irrelevant.

The 'glossing over' comment was also directed at the u-turn from the opening paragraph on ethnonationalism to what transpires to be essentially an Islamic Extremist piece - complete with 'Arab Terrorists', Al-Qaeda, and how we should be siding and joining hands with Jewish interests - whether they be here in Europe or actually in Israel.

This latter part is what I was driving at with my "neo-con?" label in brackets later on.

Please note both the use of brackets and the question mark that was there, for this was not an assertion about yourself as an individual, but more about the type of general stance that I felt was being given off in the piece, a piece which naturally gets imbued into peoples consciousness.

BritishActivism said...

(Continued)

When the aspects of terror plots are focused on, "Al-Qaeda" brought up, commentary generally supporting and protecting Jewish groups and their interests, please forgive me when I suggest that some aspects of it could have been written by somebody like Douglas Murray. Therefore, I don't happen to see the reference I made to neo-conservatism as being "absurd".

As it happens, I quite admire Douglas Murray, especially when it comes to understanding the Islamic problem we face in the West - and I have done so for a quite a few years, so that is certainly not meant to be a disparaging remark.

He can state a good case and he stands up against both Marxism and Islamic Extremism very well too - often making some of the same calls and arguments as what was in the article - but it has to be understood that Douglas Murray is not a Nationalist, he is a neo-conservative.

You will have to forgive me when I find the edges somewhat blurred between articles like this and what people like Douglas Murray may have to say on this general set of stances put forward within them.

This is the only reason why I added that (question marked) remark in there. I was certainly not trying to insinuate that you personally are cut entirely from the same cloth or that there are no further dimensions to your insight or allegiances.

My own position regarding our involvement with these groups currently remains as my first set of posts. That may change, who knows.

The choice will be up to them whether they support us exactly as we stand or not, and it is them who I think should have to do the chasing.

It remains my view that we should not be actively trying to "earn" their support in any way by reshaping or redefining British Nationalism towards altering a certain level of neutrality - or altering the fundamental principles and aspirations.

I appreciate that I might be wrong to take those kinds of simplistic views on this latter aspect, but I would have to be convinced strongly as to why we should go any further than that, especially given the nature of things that have arguably led us here.

Cheers,

British Activism.

misterfox said...

BA,
Thanks for that. Firstly, there is a disconnect: I added the denial of civic nationalism for two reasons. One, there is a growing trend amongst nationalists to jettison racial principals in the vain belief that the Establishment will go easier on them. Two, to assure people that my call for an alliance with Jewish communities is not part of that sort of outlook.

Anonymous said...

BA, If you don't mind me asking what activities or groups are you yourself involved with. You are well-read so could do a lot.

MF

misterfox said...

The centre for Social Cohesion stands for "(CSC), a non-partisan think-tank in Westminster, London. Founded in 2007 to promote human rights, tolerance and greater cohesion among the UK's ethnic and religious communities and within wider British society, the CSC is the first think-tank in the UK to specialise in studying radicalisation and extremism within Britain."

BA, you think I carry on like that? Where do I use universal abstractions like "human rights"? I have attacked the ideological use of words like "tolerance" in articles posted on Sarah's blog. This is why my critics mystify me: they attribute things to me that do not fit!

misterfox said...

The problem with the "The Jews got us into this so why help them" attitude is wrong because their leaders did, not the average Jew in the street who are he ones I address.

Where Whites err is they fail to see that their leaders also have got them into it too. Yes, they are harming their own people not just us and that is a way out of this as I explained.

The influential neo-Cons are Jewish as is Douglas Murray! I'm not. Actually, my influences are great British Conservatives - Edmund Burke, especially which is why I dislike the use of abstract terms like humanity and persons for English man and woman.

I do everything I can to conduct original research and writing to do what I can to help the White British people and do not like being pigeon-holed as a neo-Con, Searchlight or Reformer. I am none of these. What I ask critics of my idea of an alliance is that if I am so wrong what do they suggest we do. Guess what? They don't know!

BritishActivism said...

Mister Fox, unfortunately it appears we are at crossed wires somehow.

In my earlier replies, I was certainly not trying to imply or insinuate anything about yourself as a person, and I am certainly not a detractor or opponent of yours in any way.

(Nor was I suggesting you were in line to the 'group' objectives which Douglas Murray now allocates himself to).

I value the work and the research that you do for the cause, and I hope that you continue to do so.

I would hate to feel that we had rubbed each other the wrong way, because there is certainly no hostility meant from my side lol.

That's the thing with text/typing, it is hard to convey the emotional nature in which things were meant.

All the best,

British Activism.

(Ps, to the other anon MF, I am not currently with anything or doing anything for anybody. I am a card carrying member of a certain well known party, and that's about it right now.)