As I have explained here before, I do not dispute the claims which are made about the numbers killed in the Holocaust, I do not know enough about the subject to deny it. However, it would never have occurred to me to question it, were in not for the fact that in many countries in Europe, and in Canada it is illegal to question the official account. That is the sort of thing which happens in dictatorships, where they wish to silence the truth, so inevitably it makes one suspicious.
I have always been grateful for the fact that in Britain, so called "Holocaust denial" is not a crime although a number of other thought crimes are, and that, at least in that area, scholars can debate the facts of history.
The fact that what Australian historian Dr. Fredrick Töben is accused of doing is not a crime in Britain makes it even more shocking that he was arrested on an aircraft passing through Britain's Heathrow airport on the strength of an extradition warrant issued by the German government.
I may not agree with Dr Töben, or know if what he says has any merit, however, the treatment he has received at the hands of Britain is outrageous and exposes as a joke what any claim that there is free speech in this country.
What follows is a letter written by Lady Michèle Renouf to the Australian High Commissioner, detailing the behaviour of the British police, presumably with the approval of the British Government.
Michèle, Lady Renouf,
P.O. Box 18812,
London,
SW7 4WD
.Tel/Fax: 0207 460 7453
2nd October 2008
High Commissioner to the UK,
Mr. John Dauth LVO,
Australian High Commission,
Strand,
London,
WC2B 4LA.
Fax: 0207 240 5333
Your Excellency,
As you will be aware the British police and Crown Prosecution Service have executed a Mannheim-originating warrant on an Australian national, the historian Dr. Fredrick Töben, who was arrested on board an aeroplane at Heathrow while simply in transit from the USA to Dubai.
Even as he had no intention of entering Britain, he was seized off the aeroplane and brought into this country where his alleged crimes do not even constitute an offence.
For the first time, therefore, the European Arrest Warrant is being used in a manner that we in Britain were assured would not be applied in Britain,which has declined to adopt a 'Holocaust denial' law, because it is contrary to British traditions of freedom of enquiry and expression.
The situation is summed up in today's Times under the headline:'
Extradition bid raises fears of 'thought crime' offences'.
I trust that the High Commission will provide consular assistance to Dr.Töben and will monitor this disturbing and unprecedented development so as to keep our fellow Australians informed of what they can expect from the UK legal system when travelling or in transit.
Yours truly
Michèle Renouf
__________________________________
UPDATE 04/10/2008
"British courts should refuse to act on an EU arrest warrant requesting the extradition of an alleged Holocaust denier, says a senior Lib Dem".
How unusual for a Liberal Democrat!! Read more here
11 comments:
Why are the millions of jews that died so sacred,many more millions died in WWII.It is about time that the whole truth regarding WWII is told to the world.
I think that the powers that be cannot allow that to happen because the truth will hurt the jews more than the 6 million that died.
I hope the Aussies dont take this one lying down.
Thank you for a great blog.
The 9/11 official story is a conspiracy theory of outlandish incompetence. It alleges that terrorists successfully evaded a multi-billion-dollar defense establishment including NORAD, standard FAA intercept procedures, US airbases, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, international intelligence agencies and more, without any significant or effective resistance. To believe the official story,you must believe that it is acceptable that instead of reprimands, those most responsible for failing to prevent the attacks received promotions.
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7/7: The Ripple Effect
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'The Ripple Effect' is an extremely well-done video on the 7/7 bombings. It is clear that the British government has reliable assassins and a compliant media.
A must read:
Main Core and PROMIS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Main-Core-PROMIS-and-the-by-Ed-Encho-081003-472.html
"Worms do not rise up in revolt. That takes a backbone."
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2008/10/the-bailout-in.html#more
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080626/ap_on_re_eu/germany_holocaust_papers
Scholars make finds in Nazi archive
The Nazis kept meticulous records and much of it ended up here, in a closely guarded archive maintained by the International Tracing Service, which is administered by the International Committee of the Red Cross.
"Among the striking revelations was the identification of the man who rescued an 8-year-old boy in Buchenwald, Israel Meir Lau, who later became Israel's chief rabbi.
Lau had said his rescuer was a person called Fyodor from Rostow. Kenneth Waltzer of Michigan State University found it was Fyodor Michajlitschenko, 18, arrested by the Gestapo in 1943, who gave the small boy ear warmers and treated him like a father in Block 8 until the camp's liberation.
[Comment: Right, an alleged 'plan to extermiante all the Jews' yet we have the future chief Rabbi of 'Israel' age 8 not exterminated.]
What about survivor Yeshayahu Folmans' tatoo
"The original inscription, B1367, was seared by a German soldier into the arm of the 10-year-old child Yeshayahu Folman in June 1944, on the day he was brought to Auschwitz. The boy had been sent alone from Piotrkow in Poland, and did not know what happened to his parents, whom he would find only after the war. After surviving selektions and three years in the Blizhin and Treblinka camps, Folman - who describes himself "a survivor, like a field mouse" - survived Auschwitz as well."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/979508.html
[Comment: 8 year old Jewish boy survives three concentration/extermination camps and is reunited with his parents, who also survived, after the war.]
http://ems.gmnews.com/news/2006/0503/Bulletin_Board/018.html
Holocaust survivor recognition day planned
"Middlesex County College and the New Jersey Commission for Holocaust Education will to celebrate the lifetime achievements of Holocaust survivors from 2-4 p.m. on May 11. Holocaust survivors who live in Middlesex County will be honored at a reception and ceremony at college. Many of them were children during the Holocaust and in concentration camps when they would have been in school. Many went directly to work when they were liberated from the camps as young adults. If you would like to attend, please R.S.V.P. to..."
[Comment: Jewish children who were are supposed to have been exterminated are alive in New Jersey.]
"One file in the archive notes, for example, the number of lice found during an inspection of 667 prisoners in Block 6 of the Grossrosen camp, in today's Poland, on November 28th, 1944. Despite the imminent collapse of the Nazi war machine, camp guards meticulously counted 39 lice."
And a Jewish survivor reports....
"…I survived (six years of imprisonment in ghettos, labor camps and concentration camps as a child during World War II)… When, as a nine-year-old, I spent a month in Buchenwald, it never occurred to me that those of my fellow-inmates who were Gypsies, Soviet prisoners of war, or Danish policemen arrested for helping the Jews escape, were undergoing experiences that were different from mine…. Both of my parents survived, and I had no siblings. I have no tattoo (though I sometimes perversely envied those who had them). I was never beaten or starved. After the War I went on with school at the normal grade level. And when I recently visited the Buchenwald memorial site, the foremost thought in my mind – unrepentant cinephile that I am – was to find the location of the barrack where I saw my first movie; never mind that my first screen image was of a smiling Hitler on horseback, introducing a newsreel. The search for the site of the barrack where I actually lived took second place. ... I spent the last months of the War, after Buchenwald, in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp... "
http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/~coby/essays/confden.htm
Well done for writing this article Sarah but I warn you, it is a minefield.
If you start digging, then you will uncover information that will make you question history.
The figure of six million is always quoted despite there being evidence to the contrary. See previous poster.
Now whether it was 1.9 million as reported by the Polish Government in 1990, 2.9 million by some Jewish Sources or six million according to others, it was still a tragedy on an epic scale.
But what is wrong now, is the fact that people are not allowed to research or question the figures or deny them on pain of imprisonment.
The Earth would still be round even if the entire population of the world believed it to be flat.
Personally I am more worried about the future than the past and usually never enter into debates of this kind.
Great site by the way.
http://www.rense.com/general67/globa.htm
Twenty years ago I went to the authorities to try and save the life of Anton Lubowski, a lawyer in then South West Africa. The Government did nothing and a man was murdered for his principles. I disagreed with him intensely and would have had the satisfaction of history proving me right had Anton not been gunned down. In a discussion with the First Secretary of the Australian High Commission over terrorism, he was adamant that the scourge could be countered by peaceful means. He was wrong then and his government now adopts some of the methods suggested at that time- 1980.
Funny how people only listen to experts with an agenda and not the people they commission to keep the peace.
If it is in writing it is only words on paper and cannot be taken as fact. The IRA are almost at their goal in Ulster and this soft minded Nu Lieber bunch still thinks it has succeeded!
I came across this today and remembered your post. Very interesting.
http://nationalisttruth1.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-on-fredrick-toben-persecution.html
A contrary view, in favour of this arrest by the Guardian commentator David Cesarani can be read here
I recommend the "Comments" section to you
The question is did the man tell the truth or not.
With such a reaction it seems he did.
Should the truth not be the measure here, instead of political bull.
Dear Sarah
see www.iamthewitness.com
It seems the the current happenings in Brittain shows that there is no turning back.
The problem is, the Weimar Republic had hate speech laws. It used them freely against the Nazis. Far from stopping Hitler, they only made his day when he became Chancellor. They enabled Hitler to confront Social Democratic Party chairman Otto Wels, who stood up in the Reichstag to protest Nazi suspension of civil liberties, with a quotation from the poet Friedrich Schiller:
"'Late you come, but still you come,'" Hitler pointed at the hapless deputy. "You should have recognized the value of criticism during the years we were in opposition [when] our press was forbidden, our meetings were forbidden, and we were forbidden to speak for years on end."
"Where was the gentlemen for the last ten years when we were being prosecuted and jailed?"
www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=a48c094e-4749-4674-b506-5041b697fe99&k=53064&p=2
The year 1984 came and went, and then in the late 1980s the Soviet Bloc collapsed. Consequently, I began to regard Orwell's 1984 as an outdated novel of what might have been but didn't happen.
However, the last two or three years have changed my mind, and I now think that '1984' is one of the most brilliant prophetic books ever written. I'm only just realising that what Orwell was predicting was not a world where Soviet Communism had triumphed, but a world where tendencies inherent among the Metropolitan 'Fabian Intellectual' Elite of the Labour Party had reached their logical conclusions.
Not only do we now have a state apparatus for surveillance, thought-control, dumbing-down and bureaucratic micromanagement that in 1948 (when '1984' was published) only existed in Orwell's nightmares and Stalin's dreams. But we also have a social division which didn't exist in Stalin's Empire, yet was predicted by Orwell - that between the Party Members and the Proles.
Whatever their private views, the old-style communists always pretended to have a great respect and affinity with the working class. But in Orwell's dystopian Britain, the Party Members have an openly expressed contempt for the Proles, who are kept in a dumbed-down state of servitude by deliberately deficient education and a culture of 'prolefeed' - soap operas, soft porn etc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proles
This is exactly the condition we now find ourselves in. The Elite actually comprise not only the Labour Party leadership, but also the Metropolitan Elite of the BBC, who produce prolefeed for idiots, and maintain political correctness among those who might still have functioning brains and must be prevented from becoming thought-criminals.
If you need any more convincing that the NuLabour elite and the BBC detest and despise the proles, just bring to mind Jack Straw, Harriet Harm-men, and Andrew Marr:
"Harman is the embodiment of so much that is wrong with New Labour. Born into affluent privilege herself, Harman is that classic socialist type that regards the robust British working class with suspicion." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020553/Why-does-Harriet-Harman-hate-marriage.html
"Beware the English - a nation with the potential for aggression and violence.
That's the warning from Home Secretary Jack Straw, who has aired his views on a BBC radio debate about what it means to be British." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/596717.stm
"And the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress...I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain 'natural' beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off. The police are first in line to be burdened further, but a new Race Relations Act will impose the will of the state on millions of other lives too." - Andrew Marr http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1999/feb/28/lawrence.ukcrime4
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